Anyone got a PS3? Options

[Dave]

I was just wondering if anyone has a PS3?

At the price they are asking for here in NZ on the launch next month ($1198 NZ) i dont think i will be getting one any time soon. But i want to eventually. some of the games are or will be pure pwnage; Armored Core 4, Assassins Creed, Resistance, Killzone, Ratchet and Clank 5, FFXIII, MGS4, White Knight Story, Lair (DRAGONSS!!!!), just to name a few. Most are only gonna be out in 2008; i guess thats a good thing since i wont have a chance of getting it until at least then.

[Kalas]

Bah no offence to PS3 fans or playstation fans in general, but I'm more of a nintendo and especially wii supporter right now. Even though the graphics aren't as good I find that the gameplay especially for Zelda games exceeds that of the PS3.

[Dave]

If you haven't played one of the PS3 games; how can you make that statement?

Just because one game has nice gameplay, it doesn't make it better than a whole console.

[Shiun Enshidia]

I think I won't get one for quiet a while. It's just too much.

[Icefox]

Admittedly, I haven't been following it as closely, but I haven't seen a great deal for the PS3 that makes me want to rush out and buy one. I know Nintendo will always produce games that I like, they always have done, and I'm seeing a lot of good stuff for the 360, so I'm edging ever closer to getting one of those, but I just haven't seen anything on PS3 that makes me think "I NEED THAT NOW!" The only thing that comes close is the upcoming GTA4 which sounds pretty sweet, but that's now on 360 and there's rumours of even a Wii version, so there's still nothing to sell it to me. And yeah, it really does cost too much, even for me, who's normally pretty liberal with spending.

[EvilPotato]

My little bro's been all over town looking for a Wii but he can't find one, He has found PS3's but won't buy them. It says a lot now that all the systems have been out a while and people have had chances to look'em over.

I've always kinda leaned towards the Sony side of the fence but right now they cost too much and they just don't have enough selection out yet. The only game out right now that interests me is Resistance but it doesn't interest me $660 dollars worth

[Kalas]

No Blitz dont get my wrong, some of sonys games are really awsome for example all the grand theft auto, I can get enough of kosing people with nice cars its addicting. I was simply saying for price and quality, I favor the wii out of the new systems atleast until the PS3 drops.


~Also I'de like to add this is my tenth post, do the clans do anything, like should I give it alot of thought or is it just for fun?~

[Icefox]

The clans aren't really serious, they're supposed to be fun. What each clan gets up to depends on the members. But we are often very competitive and there's stuff like the upcoming clan games and the recent Tempwinda-Gracelia war which obviously involve several or all the clans together in friendly competition. Check out the different clan sections and see what we get up to.

To stay on-topic:

I can get enough of kosing people with nice cars its addicting.

Yeah, I've played so much GTA over the last few months that every time I see a nice car go by, I instinctively think, 'I'm having that!... ... no, wait. That's illegal. Damn.' GTA's definitely the one good thing Sony has going for it. Dunno if that'll last now GTA4's multiformat.

[Kalas]

Amen man, lol

[Guest_JamesR_*]

I was just wondering if anyone has a PS3?

At the price they are asking for here in NZ on the launch next month ($1198 NZ) i dont think i will be getting one any time soon. But i want to eventually. some of the games are or will be pure pwnage; Armored Core 4, Assassins Creed, Resistance, Killzone, Ratchet and Clank 5, FFXIII, MGS4, White Knight Story, Lair (DRAGONSS!!!!), just to name a few. Most are only gonna be out in 2008; i guess thats a good thing since i wont have a chance of getting it until at least then.

I won't be getting one:-

Honestly, I think so many SONY Gamers are going to be willing to sacrifice a -few- Sony Exclusives for the sake of £200.

360's go for about £280 (£289 will get you 3 games + console from GAME)

Wii's go for £179 (RRP) - But there aren't any available on GAME, thus no bundles.

PS3's go for £478 bundled with just a single Game.

You've got to remember, alot of the big NEW titles are going to be cross-platform, including Assasains Creed for one. And the GTA Series isn't exclusive anymore ...

Check out the link below, shows a list of Exclusive 360 Titles (I don't know how out of date it is - probably very) But its not a dissapointing list.

http://www.straferight.com/forums/microsof...games-list.html

Highlights for me include: Dead Rising, Gears of War, DoA4, Fable 2 and PGR3.

I don't think I could name even that many PS3 Titles i'm interested in honestly ...

The problem with alot of the SONY Franchises is that they aren't going anywhere, and SONY is relying on these old franchises to bring in the sales. True, SONY Fans and idiots alike will arrive in droves to buy the same tired iteration of a series that really should've ended on the third release ... But at this price? Customers with a degree of sense aren't going to pay that kind of money.

I still have to laugh really ... When the Xbox first hit the scene, PS2 Fans tore it to shreds ... I mean seriously, the SONY media were like rabid hyenas:

"Technical Specs are just numbers"
"You haven't got any decent licences"
"You're overpriced"

A few years on ... and look? Its a massive case of corporate hypocrisy.

Sony's PS3 will of course be a success, but i'd like to see a large portion of their market share move to Nintendo and Microsoft.

Honest opinion about 'Next-Gen' - Serious about Gaming? Get a 360. Like to have a laugh? Get a Wii. Related to the Hilton Family, or another billionairre household? Get a PC. PS3s aren't the clever investment.

Edit - I read my post again, and I sound like a bit of a 360 Fanboy, but I assure you i'm not. I love my PS2, and I recognise the achievement of the PS2 as probably the most sucessful Games Console ever designed. But the PS3 has shattered my opinion of Sony.

[Dave]

I agree that the 360 has some decent/nice exclusives. But so does the PS3. I think that Resistance is possibly the best platform FPS, ever. And although Final Fantasy is all over the place, the main games are still Sony exclusive.

Serious about gaming is for the PS3. Serious about gaming but dont have the cash is for the 360.


"Sony fans and idiots alike will arive in drones to buy the same tired iteration of a series that really shouldve ended on the third release"
Devil may cry, Gran Turismo, Armored Core, Ratchet and Clank, Jak & Daxter, Final Fantasy, Metal Gear Solid. All great games. But they should have ended on the third release? I dont think so.

Plus theres the possibility of Kingdom Hearts 3, and im sure some people would buy the system for that game solely


I have started to like Microsoft less and less over the years; with Vista that dislike turned into resentment. Now im not comparing the 360 to vista or anything like that, but i wouldn't buy a Microsoft product right now.

But dont turn this into a 360 v PS3 war.


I will wait until next year, when the good games start coming, and when sony will hopefully have reduced blu-ray costs >_>

[Guest_JamesR_*]

Serious about gaming is for the PS3. Serious about gaming but dont have the cash is for the 360.

Devil may cry, Gran Turismo, Armored Core, Ratchet and Clank, Jak & Daxter, Final Fantasy, Metal Gear Solid.

I will wait until next year, when the good games start coming, and when sony will hopefully have reduced blu-ray costs >_>

How the hell can you say "But don't have the cash if for the 360" it costs a Colossal £200 Less? And the PS3 Games share the same RRP as the 360 Games.

Why play Devil May Cry, when you can play Ninja Gaiden?

Why Gran Turismo when theres Forza?

Why Armored Core when theres Chromehonds?

Ok, Ratchet & Clank and Jak & Dexter are kinda unique, but theres plenty of good 360 Platformers - Viva Pinata if it counts is the best i can think of.

Final Fantasy true .... Thats yours, but thats not honestly a huge loss for me. Sure, I like the series but we're getting titles by the same producers ... But if you've already got a PS2 theres a good chance they'll be releasing slightly graphically inferior version on that instead for a few years.

And for me MGS peaked on MGS2.

And I hate Killzone ... That really is a game made sucessful by Fanboys. People ate it up because you wanted an exclusive title to ride against HALO, even though Killzone is a mediocre production its been hailedby SONY publications as "The best FPS ever." Gamespot.co.uk is the only website whos opinion I trust without fail - 6.9 - The only fair review i've been able to find.

Wait untill next year for the good titles to - hopefully - come out? Well, I don't actually have to because our good titles are already out. The ones we are waiting for are being saved for the big PS3 Releases.

I'm not trying to start a Flame War or anything, but this is my reasoning. I only ask that people try to see the view from OFF the bandwagon.

Thinkingly logically I consider

The Wii > £180
The 360 = £280
The PS3 < £480

Its all about Value for Money, if the PS3 drops to £300 fairly quickly, then I retract all of my points. And yes, I consider the Wii better value for money than a 360, the only reason I don't have one is because its not my scene.

[Dave]

How the hell can you say "But don't have the cash if for the 360" it costs a Colossal £200 Less? And the PS3 Games share the same RRP as the 360 Games.

So what are you saying; it looks like you said that the £200 difference isnt much. I meant if youre serious about gaming but don't have the money for the PS3, then the go for the 360.


Ninja Gaiden is more like Prince of Persia than DMC IMO. And well, the next ninja gaiden game is for the PS3.

You cant compare Armored Core to Chromehonds; but i just noticed that its also coming for 360, so it guess that isnt exclusive anymore o.0

I forgot to add tekken to that list. I know that theres DoA, but previous tekken games have been rated higher than the DoA counterparts, so i dont know.

Tbh, i don't see why they don't just make every game Multi Platform. Theyd be making more money



I dont think another PS2 FF is likely. You could easily see some of the hardware limitations in FFXII, i don't think they want to go through that for another game.

In the end; the games do look better on the PS3. I have played both Gears of War and Resistance, Resistance ran much more smoothly and was nicer to look at. But i guess i cant make a statement of those two games alone.

If i could i would get both consoles, but with the price of the PS3 that wont happen. Quite honestly, im not going to even think about getting any next gen console for a while.

The PS2 started up at a ridiculous price as well if i remember correctly, at least here in new zealand.

[Kalas]

Meh you both make valid points, I for one am a nintendo fan, however I was looking into investing into an xbox 360 because it does look pretty good. As for the PS3 all I can say is, graphics = AMAZING, Wii graphics = decent graphics with truly fun gameplay, Xbox 360 = also very nice.

PS3 = $600
Xbox 360 = $400 for bundle *i think*
Wii= $250

All these prices I would say is fair, nintendo always having a fair amount of supporters ca-n sell their systems cheap while microsoft puts in I should say "better" quality components and sell their system for a little more. However the PS3 in my opinion is way to expensive and most likely cause for this is because they are running out of ideas and losing money fast. So far they are only making money on t.v's and their gaming industry. Things like sony connect = knock off of itunes just made them lose money as well as all their cd players that went absolet with the launch of the ipods. Once prices go down, if they do come down I will see PS3 as a much better system but for right now I view it as way to pricey.

P.S- as well as online games go, I hear Super Smash Brothers Brawl *most waited for release ever in nintendo history* is going to be online, and our online capabilities are free curtesy of Opra* (CANT WAIT >___<)

[Dave]

The PS3 has free online services as well (at least thats what ive read/heard).

As far as i know, the only reason the PS3 costs so much is because of its components, not Sony being greedy and charging extra or something like that. The Blu-Ray seems to be whats making the PS3 so much more than the 360, as well as the graphics chip. We can just hope that production costs will go down.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/746/746482p1.html
http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=c...d=4222&Itemid=2

Those are a bit old, but i dont think very much has changed.


I like how the PS3 has the linux OS on it; i could host the RO server off it lol.

[Guest_JamesR_*]

Hrm ... I didn't know that the new Ninja Gaiden was going to be a PS3 Exclusive, however:

The new game is called Ninja Gaiden Sigma and is actually a remake of Ninja Gaiden Black, which appeared exclusively on the original Xbox and was an update of Ninja Gaiden on the same system.

So I guess technically we've already had it

Source: http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2007Feb/...70212002531.htm

And yes, your online service is free, you win there. But Live is a solid investment anywho.

From a historical perspective, the danger with the PS3 is in it's ROM, yes - BluRay.

Ergo:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betamax
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Media_Disc

Seeing a pattern? Sony backed Media hasn't had a previously great sucess rate. With BluRay already costing twice the price (More according to some sources) to produce compared to HD-DVD and the fact that SONY Clearly don't want BluRay to become truly mainstream ... I don't have high expectations for price drops. Since the BluRay drive is one of the most (if not the most) expensive PS3 Components, its a very poor outlook.

Oh and by "Cleary don't want BluRay to become truly mainsteam" I mean SONY is forbidding the use of the format with areas such as Pornography - Which is now synonomous(spelling) with DVDs. Seems trivial, but consider how much money goes into Pornographic productions, if you had that sort of Demand production methods are bound to cheapen.

Useful comments: http://www.digg.com/tech_news/No_Porn_On_Sony_HD_DVD_Blu_ray

As someone aptly points out:

History is truly repeating itself.

Back when VCRs had just hit the market, people could for the first time get porn at home. No more sleasy movie theatres. You could spank it in the comfort of your home. Then too there was a format war and the fact that you couldn't get porn on beta was a major factor in it's demise.

I had high hopes when BluRay first appeared, I thought you couldn't do much more with DVDs ... but I think theres alot of fight in the 'Ole Dog yet.

Mini Disclaimer: Again, i'm not saying Lack-o-Porn will single-handedly cause the fall of BluRay, but I think that it will make sucess far harder.

Edit - Just came across this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Versatile_Multilayer_Disc <-- It R Nifty

[Dave]

But the PS3 still gets a version with nicer graphics

Thats an....interesting outlook on things. Although what you say may be correct; the games themselves still are on BluRay discs and take full advantage of that.

Plus BluRay sales were higher than HD DVD and the others the last time i checked.
http://www.blu-ray.com/

I dont think it will end up as badly as you say.

And just because Sony are forbidding it doesnt mean it wont happen

[Dachande]

this is what gets me blu-ray holds more data than a DVD so does that mean cross format titles like assassins creed will get more extra content on the PS3 version then it will on the 360. or will it be that only PS3 exclusive titles will use the full space on the disk?.

because if the games are the same whats the point in all the extra disk space? and dont tell me it'll be better for a collector edition either.

i cant say that the PS3 holds any intrest for me game wise and they way they stole signiture ideas from the other console really put me off sony. also most of it's selling points have fallen through like backwards compatibility, and their claim that only the PS3 console can produce HD pictures at 1080i. (the 360 got an update a few months back)

and is £4.99 per month or £40 for a year really that much for an online service?

[Dave]

I dont think the games will get any "extra" content, but the content itself should be better (as in run smoother) since BluRay is superior to HD DVD. By using the extra space i guess they just put more stuff in to make it run better.

Any cross platform game will run the best on the PS3 due to the BluRay and the PS3's superior specs; though the gameplay itself could be better on the 360.


Although its not very much; $100 AU a year is still quite a bit.

[Dachande]

so there going to use all that extra disk space and were talking Gigs worth here to "makes the games run smoother" it shouldn't take that much disk space. what i can see happening is that PS3 user will get the exact same game as 360 and wii users ok so you may get a few extra levels but then 360 users will probably be able to download them anyway.


i dont follow up much on the PS3 so i'd like to know why games would run better? (seriouse question not a piss take)

also i'd like to see the current specs for the PS3 if anybody can find a copy (prefrable one thats not full in sony BS *looks back at E3*)

as for the XBl price you can allways just pay for it when you want or when you have the money thats what i do it's not different than people paying £5 - £6 monthly for a magazine only you can get every demo, game trailer, patch going and still use the voice chat to talk to you friends.